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I know this forum is sponsored by SLAM but I just had to mention how the Bio-Baits  from Go-Fish performed in Aussie out at the Great Barrier reef and more importantly in our own backyard at Waiheke over these last few winter days. Doing my bit for the environment in Aussie I only used non toxic Bio-degradable softbaits, so only Bio-Baits and Gulps were used as these were the only ones I used, and all manner of tropical species were caught , most with lots of teeth.  The first thing you will notice about the Bio's is the thick paste gooh that they put in the packets, I will be asking Greg at Go-Fish if they can reduce this somewhat as it can make it a little slippery and messy getting them on the hooks and jigheads. That aside though the bait are fully scented throughout and hit the water running with scent oozzing out straight away, they have a great action if matched to the correct weight Jig head and hooks. It's hard to compare them to Gulp or anyother softbait for that matter because of their composition being a plastic that dosen't contain petrolium, and no one eles was using softbaits of my recent Aussie trip. They aren't a protein based product and they are reported as a non toxic bio-degradable softbait  (as claimed by the manufacturer and accepted by the FDA in the USA). Second thing to stand out is they can take a good strike without falling apart on the first hit (unless that big 20lber gets it) as mentioned a lot of the species on the Reff had teeth and they stood up really well  to the point where I was averaging 3-4 fish and I got the same result here in NZ on our local species, my best results being 8 fish before a bait change.
Some may see a down fall as they will still get hit by some of the unwanted species like Leatherjackets and Squid, but this only proved they will attract a good range and varity of fish.
The range at present is limit to 2 sizes and 1 shape as you would expect when first bringing a new product into the country, the 4" and 6" shads are currently available at Go-Fish and I believe another outlet is going to stock them south of the bridge.  The colour range will be extended from 6 to 9 on future shipments to cover the some of gaps with some new and exciting choices available.
With our winter in full grips I have found that the smaller 4" Bio's are the bait size to go for around the shallows and reef structures when wash fishing. Snapper are in full winter mode and looking to feed on smaller baits when hungry and yes softbaits DO WORK IN WINTER, you just need to modify your tactics to suit, something of a hot topic at present.
In my own opinion if I had to rate them from 1-10 they would get an 8+, mainly because of the excess of gooh in the packets, this however is a minor thing and I'm sure it will be addressed, the other being the varity of shapes, it would be good to see a larger size and possably a few different shapes like a grub or poggy.
All in all they are a great softbait and as good as the best I've tried, they will be a great addition to the softbait market.
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I managed to get me some of the packets that you didn't buy up from Go Fish, thanks for leavin us some mate
Like the action on em its just that bloody goo on it, I washed it off but thats gotta be done in warmish water cause it solidifies in cold water. I guess its some sort of oil? Anyway, they worked a charm without the sauce on them too, just a pity it wasn't for me. I lent them to a mate and he slayed em. I guess more and more reports like these and we may have a serious contender to knock into gulp for the coming summer. Not to mention the non-toxic bio-degradable side of things that will satisfy some of the greener fishos tooThumbs%20Up 
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Yes Badfish... Tiny does love his Tikiman Snakes, we are getting spoilt for choice with the varity of softbaits at present, Gulp would still have to be tops for selection of colours and shapes, they now have more chicken flavours than KFC. Can't wait for the SLAM but they wouldn't want too many more baits like Bio-Bait to move into the market while we wait for their release date.
Interesting to note that you also found the gooh a little over done and you were right about washing it off, I didn't find it impead their effectiveness at all, they still worked 3 days latter after being left out of the packet, another good selling point they don't dry out and shrivel up. I had left one or two in the Sports boat for a couple of days and even in 25-26degC  they went straight onto the hook and produced several Coral Trout and a Red Throat Sweet Lip. You also get x10 off in the 4" or x8 off in the 6" per packet, with the price of everything going up it represents pretty good value.
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In my humble exprience they started off with a hiss and a roar but the last two times my results were a little mixed at best.
Somedays the fish seem to have preferences but much as I hate to say it the most consistent performer was gulp and squidgies.
Will try with the smaller bios more - they look the goods.
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For me bio baits have fixed a couple of the more undesirable things I didn't like about gulps, like the drying out, what to do with a bait that was untouched but wet and not meant to go back into the packs... etc.
If they ever come out with a grub tail and more colours I will be a very happy man.
 
The excess of the goo seems to be a fairly common complaint within my mates. We bought a few packs but were so put off by the goo that we'd all but written them off as to much of a pain. I will continue to wash the excess off but I would obviously prefer to have a product ready to go from the packet. Can't see many of my mates bothering to do that when they could just buy gulps.
 
Either way, this is leading to be another pretty exciting summer trying out new baits/techniques, with some madais finding their way into the tackle cave also!
Just hope I don't ginx it
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Redfinger, good to here your opinion on them, I did find that size and colour played a big part on the harder days as well, hopfully some of the colour gaps will be filled with the Bio's. Interesting to see the Squidgies working well for you, I have tried them extensivley with mixed results, some days you just couldn't miss with them, others even though the fish were there they just wouldn't hit them. Then you through them something different and BANG into them again.... Confused thats fishing...no bloody rules except size and numbers
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Yet to try those Madias Badfish they look the business for the deeper areas where there are no real bust off structure, I see the Japanese have been developing them over the past few years with great effect.  I did try a type of these last summer, it consisted of one of our #3 Deepwater rigs, a 7" Gulp poked up the middle of one of those cheap coloured squid lure skirts and a 6/0 long shank hook, worked well on the Snapper even after the Gulp got bitten off.
You and I need to go out when the weather gets a little better and do some experimenting with another idea I have.
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The scented 110 squidgies saved the day for me last two trips. Lemon, Pillie or punkin seed all good. Naughty cudas like the lemon ones a bit too much.
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Not much those f----ing Cudas won't takeLOL
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MIB - you could catch good snapper on any sp (even unscented OMG!) you are that good!
U would be welcome out with me anyday but would need passport to get past border control at Bridge.
What is it with you southern men - tightlines, AP, Otter BTW - Just get over it and move north.
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Originally posted by Badfish Badfish wrote:

like the drying out, what to do with a bait that was untouched but wet and not meant to go back into the packs... etc.



Just dry them out on your **** and they can go back in the pack. I have been doing this for a long time and have had on probs
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Redfinger, I know the Comander of the Police force over the bridge pretty well so all should be good for getting a VisaLOL 

We will continue to make our regular pilaging rades into the winterless areas north of the bridge on regular occations. Our next big rade is with Damo on the 27th Aug... can't wait to fill the bins as I missed out on the last one. 
I don't know about this catching good snapper on anything bit... there's been days when I've struggled to catch a cold let alone a fish but things have looked rosie just of late and some winter softbait tactics have really paid off big time.
 
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Definitey different than summer but very rewarding and I have found average size better than summer. You don't mind if there is a bit of time between fish so long as you know u are in the right place and they will turn up and pull some string soon.
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Originally posted by Men In Black Men In Black wrote:

Yet to try those Madias Badfish they look the business for the deeper areas where there are no real bust off structure, I see the Japanese have been developing them over the past few years with great effect.  I did try a type of these last summer, it consisted of one of our #3 Deepwater rigs, a 7" Gulp poked up the middle of one of those cheap coloured squid lure skirts and a 6/0 long shank hook, worked well on the Snapper even after the Gulp got bitten off.
You and I need to go out when the weather gets a little better and do some experimenting with another idea I have.
 
I'm there! I've done some decorating to the down under rigs too so will be interesting to see how it goes. Will try narrow somethings out before august
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A BF I got ya back for the 27th gave MIB a couple $ to get me a good mix of Bio-b and Tikis I promise to keep mys eyes of ya SSSSnakes on the next trip TongueLOLBig%20smile.
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Originally posted by Redfinger Redfinger wrote:

MIB - you could catch good snapper on any sp (even unscented OMG!) you are that good!
U would be welcome out with me anyday but would need passport to get past border control at Bridge.
What is it with you southern men - tightlines, AP, Otter BTW - Just get over it and move north.
Hey RF I'm only too keen to get back up there again. My next booked excursion is with Damo on the 27 Aug, but I'm happy to come before if I can organise itWink
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How can you moan about the juice in biobaits or sauce smells better then the crap on gulps and is one of the reasons they works so well i tke them out the packet and 
put them in a tray and they still have some goo on them but its not really 
much of an issue if it smelt bad then it might be but a quick wipe with
a towel and its sorted?

if you store them in a tray why not just wipe if off then put them away
for me its a non issue they are awesome baits and after the "new"
ones come out i will no longer have a reason to buy gulps
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Bio bait lovers and Bio curious, We are just about to launch Bio baits to other tackle stores, If we don't get to your local stores who don't stock them, get them to emails us and we will get them going, both Bio and Wave worms!


Bio grubs In 5, 6 and 8 inch will be available for summer in all the cool colors.

Glow also will be available
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The slimey liquid on the Bio bait, is what they are made out of, the liquid in its raw form apparently.
They contain No petrochemicals and they have been found to be dissolving in fishes stomachs.
Will have a web site up soon biobait.co.nz with stockists,


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Can't wait for those bio-grubs.... I imagine they may be a go to this spring for me

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